Monday, March 14, 2005

"New Jersey Smoking Ban"

New JErsey smoking ban isn't far off. It was recently voted on an it could soon be a reality. In fact as far as I gather it only has to go to the Senate now.Now the smoking ban would be for all public places. Which would include bars and resturants. This has many business owners concerned that the smokers won't come out as often or at all.

However, some businesses in cities have said they actually had an increase in business whent he smoking ban was put in place.

New Jersey has bit of a different situation. Considering the fact that they have 13 casinos. Now from what I understand the casinos really don't want to fall under the blanket of public buildings and want to be exempt from such a ban.

I mean think about its a place for people to gamble which is, well not really good for you at all. So, if you are going to make that legal in one city. Why not just let them smoke too. Considering the casinos employee a large portion of South Jersey and bring in quite a bit money for the state, should they be excluded from the ban?

The bar situation is a bit different from the casino. I mean what if someone is really Jonesing for a cigarette? They have to walk all the way to the boardwalk or the garage? Its a lot harder to get outside. Especially, if you are playing tables.

In fact I know I have some smokers reading here. Let's say you are in the middle of a winning streak. Would you actually step out for a smoke? Since people are going to AC to drink and gamble should they really think of smoking as a huge sin?

I hate second hand smoke. However, I accept it as part of the Casinos and Bar scene. What does everyone think?

Wonder how this will effect our local bars if it goes through.

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8 comments:

Anonymous said...

smoking is cool!!! and it's totally healthy!!! seriously, anyone who denies that must be a nazi or something....

Unknown said...

Your Casino-exception argument makes no sense. I'm sure the casinos would love to avoid this law, and unlike bars, restaurants, and bowling alleys, casinos might have the political clout (i.e., money) to get an exception. But there is no actual reason why they should get an exception.

You say "I mean think about its a place for people to gamble which is, well not really good for you at all. So, if you are going to make that legal in one city. Why not just let them smoke too." That makes no sense. Gambling may not be "good for you", but it has nothing to do with cigarettes being not good for you. Gambling doesn't cause cancer, so far as I know.

It's not a matter of letting people do "bad" things. It's a matter of providing a safe working environment for employees.

I will be very pissed off if the casinos get an exception.

Jenna said...

I love that Drew is a smoker and isn't flipping out about the ban. The last I heard they had added the casinos into the ban. As an ex-smoker I hate second hand smoke worse than before. I think that it will piss off the casinos a lot but I hope it goes through. My health is more important than their business, whether they think so or not. It may be an inconvenience to the gamblers but too bad. They can put their own health at risk but not others.

keith said...

Nevada the same basic laws pending. Although, they exempt the casinos. So it is not unheard of. Neveada likely knows how the image of Sin City would pretty much be watered down if you couldn't smoke there.

This couldn't come at a worse time for Atlantic Ciy, which is currently going through growing pains. Borogata helped out a lot, but still a lot of work needs to be done down there.

They are losing people to Vegas with cheap air fair, and with slot machines in Philly coming soon, and possibly some in North Jersey it is just another punch in the gut for America's favoriate playground.

I don't see why a common ground can't be reached. Most bar casinos are actually closed seperated parts of the buidling.

Maybe they can have smoking sections where you actually go into another part of the casino like another level or a enclosed room. Of course you still put some employees at risk.

In the Atlantic City press the owner of the Irish Pub gripped that there are dozens of "beach bars" around his business that wouldn't have to worry about the ban. He fears he will basically lose his shirt.

Would any of my smoker friends just stop going to the bars when the ban takes place?

Unknown said...

Ok, that's a totally different argument for the casino exception, and it makes a lot more sense.

No, I definitely wouldn't stop going to bars, but it's possible that I would cut back. Probably not, though.

Jenna said...

When my brother lived in LA he said all of the bars were non-smoking but the majority had smoking rooms. I think that is a good idea. I think it is going to be less of a problem then everyone thinks.

keith said...

Sharkey's will have to put back the wall to the one room!

I don't know I guess I think as a ban is a ban. But from what I read it would let cigar bars like the one in the Whatever Center be free. Yes, I know thats PA, but the only one I could think of.

With skyrocketing oil prices, and the high hotel tax on the hotels in Atlantic City, its almost cheaper for us all to fly to Vegas!

Vegas, Baby, Vegas!

Anonymous said...

I recently dinned at steve and cookies in new jersey, while the bartender smoked behind the bar and continued on a ridiculous monologue about why I should go listen to the music in another room and would not want to be waited on because I didnt smoke. Little does he know I tip huge and know more about food and wine then he ever will. It is a shame for him because in a few weeks he will be even more miserable when he cant smoke behind the line. Probably the last time I go there